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LeeCanipe

LeeCanipe
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I know that some Ivey branches have an oral history of Portuguese ancestry; in SC, there was the famous Thomas Hagans court case. Growing up in NC, I'd always heard Portuguese was used as code for "mixed race". 23andMe recently updated their Ancestry Composition, and my 3% Iberian is now identified as Portuguese! I have no known Iberian ancestry, but perhaps there was something to those old stories?

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Posted on May 14, 2018 at 7:13 PM

admin

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Re: Portuguese

I think you do have Portuguese. Using Eurogene K13 your have West Med 14.40%, /
Eurogene K15 you have 10.6% and K36 you have 11.33 percent Iberian. Either you have some Portuguese and Spanish or a little of both. What do you think.

Duane Johnson

Posted on May 25, 2018 at 7:43 PM

LeeCanipe

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Re: Portuguese

I believe that I must. On Ancestry I show 8% Iberian Peninsula at a high confidence. I have read that Ancestry is getting ready to update their site and Iberian will be broken down into Spanish & Portuguese. I can't wait to see what mine says!

Posted on May 25, 2018 at 8:13 PM

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Re: Portuguese

Admixture results is not just one country but an area. Therefore Iberian Peninsula is more that just Poruigal. Are you using the K36 Admixture. It is great for Europe but is poor for African and American Indian. I will be uploading a lot of Ivy ethnic information hopefully in the next week. Then as soon as I can get it type will my first common ancestor finding.

Duane

Posted on June 10, 2018 at 6:18 PM

LeeCanipe

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Re: Portuguese

This was on 23andMe... they updated their ancestry composition to more specific locations. Under "Iberian Peninsula" I was given "Portugal"; however, they updated again and "Portugal" disappeared. I do still show a small amount of Iberian. On Ancestry I show 8% Iberian. They too are working on an update, so I can't wait to see if they identify my Iberian as Portuguese or Spanish (or Basque).

Posted on June 10, 2018 at 6:24 PM

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Re: Portuguese

Try running it under Gedmatch.
Admixture
Project Eurogenes
Admixture link oracle
continue
Kit #
Model K36
It tests 36 races. It is great except for african and Indian

Duane

Posted on June 10, 2018 at 9:10 PM

LeeCanipe

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Re: Portuguese

Here is my Eurogenes K36 results:

Population
Amerindian -
Arabian -
Armenian -
Basque 3.64
Central_African -
Central_Euro 6.60
East_African -
East_Asian -
East_Balkan 0.20
East_Central_Asian -
East_Central_Euro 8.27
East_Med -
Eastern_Euro 4.13
Fennoscandian 6.38
French 8.59
Iberian 9.68
Indo-Chinese -
Italian 12.95
Malayan -
Near_Eastern -
North_African -
North_Atlantic 17.98
North_Caucasian 0.16
North_Sea 16.23
Northeast_African -
Oceanian -
Omotic -
Pygmy -
Siberian -
South_Asian -
South_Central_Asian 0.45
South_Chinese -
Volga-Ural 1.00
West_African -
West_Caucasian 0.70
West_Med 3.02

Posted on June 11, 2018 at 9:46 AM

LeeCanipe

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Re: Portuguese

And here are my father's Eurogenes K36 results:

Population
Amerindian -
Arabian -
Armenian -
Basque 3.73
Central_African -
Central_Euro 7.13
East_African -
East_Asian -
East_Balkan 1.60
East_Central_Asian -
East_Central_Euro 7.80
East_Med -
Eastern_Euro 5.86
Fennoscandian 7.63
French 4.07
Iberian 11.33
Indo-Chinese -
Italian 9.66
Malayan -
Near_Eastern -
North_African -
North_Atlantic 16.05
North_Caucasian 1.62
North_Sea 18.77
Northeast_African -
Oceanian -
Omotic -
Pygmy -
Siberian -
South_Asian -
South_Central_Asian 0.75
South_Chinese -
Volga-Ural 0.91
West_African 0.16
West_Caucasian 0.31
West_Med 2.62

Posted on June 11, 2018 at 9:48 AM

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Re: Portuguese

Iberian is an area not a country. Portuguese is included in the Iberian map. However there are other areas like France, Spain, and England that are included in the Iberian ethenic group. If I was a betting man I would put my money on Ivey's coming from Scotland. My next email to the Ivey group will include more information.

Duane Johnson

Posted on January 10, 2019 at 12:07 AM

LeeCanipe

LeeCanipe
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Joined: May 14, 2018

Re: Portuguese

One of my DNA sites my father & I belong to is yourDNAportal. They recently updated their results and now my father shows both Portuguese and Lumbee (in small amounts). Interesting.

Posted on January 10, 2019 at 11:32 AM